1 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:03,360 greetings citizens and welcome to 2 00:00:06,470 --> 00:00:06,110 [Music] 3 00:00:14,910 --> 00:00:06,480 [Applause] 4 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:14,920 [Music] 5 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:27,680 i'm jason mcclellan thanks for hanging 6 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:30,000 out with me if you follow ufo-related 7 00:00:33,190 --> 00:00:31,599 chatter on social media 8 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:33,200 you may have recently noticed some 9 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,360 references to the us government 10 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:37,600 working with the japanese government on 11 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:38,559 helping japan 12 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:41,120 establish an official policy for dealing 13 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:42,960 with ufos 14 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,310 the ufo subject is an exciting one 15 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,960 we obviously find it fascinating i'm 16 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:00,719 talking to you about ufos 17 00:01:05,189 --> 00:01:03,280 and you're listening to a ufo podcast 18 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:05,199 for people interested in this topic 19 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:06,720 it's understandable for us to get 20 00:01:11,590 --> 00:01:09,680 excited when we see news related to ufos 21 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:11,600 especially when it's at the government 22 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:12,960 level 23 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:15,119 this recent news involving the us and 24 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:17,759 japan has certainly excited some people 25 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:20,479 and naturally some are even viewing it 26 00:01:24,390 --> 00:01:22,400 as something worth celebrating 27 00:01:25,990 --> 00:01:24,400 as if japan's government just opened its 28 00:01:28,230 --> 00:01:26,000 eyes and realized ufos were 29 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:28,240 real or like it's some monumental 30 00:01:31,350 --> 00:01:29,360 progress toward 31 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:31,360 grand ufo disclosure and government 32 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:32,880 transparency 33 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:42,550 on august 29th u.s secretary of defense 34 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:43,600 mark esper 35 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:45,680 and tara kono the defense minister of 36 00:01:49,990 --> 00:01:48,159 japan met in guam to reaffirm the 37 00:01:51,109 --> 00:01:50,000 strength of the alliance between the us 38 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:51,119 and japan 39 00:01:55,109 --> 00:01:53,280 they talked about military things like 40 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:55,119 strengthening intelligence and defensive 41 00:01:58,230 --> 00:01:56,560 capabilities 42 00:02:00,950 --> 00:01:58,240 on september 8th during a press 43 00:02:02,709 --> 00:02:00,960 conference minister kono was asked if he 44 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,719 had a ufo policy 45 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:04,799 and if japan was looking to cooperate 46 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:07,360 with the united states in the future 47 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,280 minister kono said he plans to address a 48 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:11,039 ufo policy soon 49 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:13,360 and that he and esper talked about it 50 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:16,400 but he wouldn't elaborate beyond that 51 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:18,879 so from this quick q a session we 52 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:19,760 learned that 53 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:22,560 secretary esper and minister kono may 54 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:25,360 have discussed ufos in some capacity 55 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:28,480 that minister kono plans to address his 56 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:29,920 ufo policy soon 57 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:32,720 whatever that means and that japan is 58 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:34,560 interested in working with the us in 59 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:37,040 some capacity regarding ufos 60 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:39,680 that's it anything beyond that is 61 00:02:43,509 --> 00:02:42,000 assumption at this point 62 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:43,519 minister kono appears to be pretty 63 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:46,080 skeptical when it comes to ufos 64 00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:48,160 back in april after the pentagon 65 00:02:51,190 --> 00:02:50,239 officially released those three ufo 66 00:02:53,350 --> 00:02:51,200 videos 67 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:53,360 minister kono was asked about these 68 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:55,360 videos during a press conference 69 00:03:00,949 --> 00:02:58,400 he responded quote no self-defense force 70 00:03:02,550 --> 00:03:00,959 pilot has encountered a ufo 71 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:02,560 the videos have come from the u.s 72 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:04,560 defense department so i would like to 73 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:05,840 hear their analysis 74 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:09,040 end quote he continued quote 75 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:12,319 i don't really believe in ufos end quote 76 00:03:15,589 --> 00:03:14,159 but he did express interest in 77 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:15,599 establishing procedures 78 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:17,680 in the event that a ufo encounter takes 79 00:03:20,470 --> 00:03:18,640 place 80 00:03:21,990 --> 00:03:20,480 so that explains the recent discussions 81 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:22,000 with the us 82 00:03:25,750 --> 00:03:23,920 it's awesome to see some potential 83 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:25,760 international cooperation when it comes 84 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:27,519 to ufos 85 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:30,560 of course in this specific context both 86 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:32,720 the u.s government and japan are 87 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:34,799 primarily assuming that the ufos they 88 00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:36,560 encounter are from china 89 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,799 but still international cooperation is a 90 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:40,319 good thing 91 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,239 it does seem odd for the u.s to be 92 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:44,560 offering advice when it comes to ufo 93 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:45,760 policy though 94 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,640 i mean let's be honest the us is a [\h__\h] 95 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:51,360 show when it comes to dealing with ufos 96 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:53,680 our own government agencies and military 97 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:55,280 branches don't even communicate with 98 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:55,920 each other 99 00:03:59,429 --> 00:03:58,720 or share data related to ufos so this 100 00:04:02,470 --> 00:03:59,439 country is 101 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:02,480 hardly the paragon of ufo policy 102 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:04,000 and let's just quickly look at the topic 103 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:05,920 of ufos in japan 104 00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:09,040 of course japan like most countries has 105 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:11,360 a long history with ufos 106 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:13,920 and ufos have been discussed countless 107 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:14,480 times 108 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:16,720 by government officials at the highest 109 00:04:20,870 --> 00:04:17,840 levels 110 00:04:22,870 --> 00:04:20,880 publicly now we're certainly not doing a 111 00:04:25,510 --> 00:04:22,880 deep dive into this today 112 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:25,520 but here are a few quick examples for 113 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:26,560 you 114 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:29,919 back in 2007 chief cabinet secretary 115 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:32,160 nobutaka machimura who was the country's 116 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:33,840 top government spokesperson 117 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:35,600 told reporters that the japanese 118 00:04:38,950 --> 00:04:36,960 government had quote 119 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:38,960 not confirmed sightings of unidentified 120 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:41,360 flying objects believed to be from outer 121 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:42,000 space 122 00:04:47,590 --> 00:04:44,560 in quote but he followed up stating that 123 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:47,600 he definitely believes they exist 124 00:04:51,510 --> 00:04:50,720 in 2015 then defense minister jen 125 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:51,520 nakatini 126 00:04:55,189 --> 00:04:53,199 fielded questions about threats from 127 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:55,199 space during an upper house budget 128 00:04:59,270 --> 00:04:56,639 committee meeting 129 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:59,280 he was asked if the military dispatches 130 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:00,320 jets to intercept 131 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:04,080 extraterrestrial craft he answered quote 132 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:06,240 when the airsoft defense force detects 133 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:07,120 indications 134 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,280 of an unidentified flying object that 135 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:11,600 could violate our country's airspace 136 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:14,080 it scrambles fighter jets if necessary 137 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:16,000 and makes visual observation 138 00:05:19,670 --> 00:05:18,639 end quote he added that quote they 139 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:19,680 sometimes find 140 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:21,840 birds or flying objects other than 141 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:22,720 aircraft 142 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,199 but i don't know of a case of finding an 143 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:27,120 unidentified flying object 144 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:29,120 believed to have come over from anywhere 145 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:30,160 other than earth 146 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:33,919 end quote back in 2007 parliament member 147 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:36,960 ryuji yamane stated quote i believe that 148 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:37,440 it is an 149 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:39,680 urgent task to collect information and 150 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:41,919 confirm the existence of ufos 151 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,440 from the viewpoint of our nation's 152 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:45,680 security and the public's interest 153 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:48,560 and anxiety amid endless eyewitness 154 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:49,440 reports 155 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:52,479 end quote in late 2007 156 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:54,880 former defense minister shigeru ishiba 157 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:55,680 said quote 158 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:57,759 there are no grounds for us to deny 159 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:00,000 there are unidentified flying objects 160 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:02,800 and some life forms that control them 161 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,639 few discussions have been held on what 162 00:06:07,990 --> 00:06:06,479 the legal grounds are for military 163 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:08,000 response 164 00:06:12,629 --> 00:06:10,800 and of course i have to mention the 165 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:12,639 former first lady of japan 166 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:16,080 miyuki harayama this is the wife of 167 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:17,280 former prime minister 168 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:19,840 yukiyo harayama this is one eclectic 169 00:06:22,469 --> 00:06:20,400 lady 170 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:22,479 who is well known for her new age 171 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:23,600 lifestyle 172 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:26,000 and she made public comments about her 173 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:27,520 astral trip to venus 174 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:30,560 inside a ufo here's what she wrote in 175 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:31,120 her book 176 00:06:34,469 --> 00:06:33,520 most bizarre things i've encountered 177 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:34,479 quote 178 00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:36,960 while my body was sleeping i think my 179 00:06:42,550 --> 00:06:39,039 spirit flew on a triangular shaped 180 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:42,560 ufo to venus end quote she added that 181 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,199 quote 182 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:45,600 it was an extremely beautiful place and 183 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:47,039 was very green 184 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:49,840 end quote she even reportedly nicknamed 185 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:50,560 her husband 186 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,000 the alien because of his prominent eyes 187 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:56,800 all the way back in 1990 then prime 188 00:06:59,749 --> 00:06:57,440 minister 189 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,759 toshiki kaifu was pretty outspoken about 190 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,960 ufos 191 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,880 in a letter addressed to a space in ufo 192 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:04,560 symposium he wrote 193 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:07,360 quote i believe it is a reasonable time 194 00:07:11,029 --> 00:07:09,840 to take the ufo problem seriously as a 195 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,039 reality 196 00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:13,280 from the point of view of people in 197 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:14,479 outer space 198 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:16,080 all human beings on earth are the same 199 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:17,919 people regardless of whether they are 200 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:18,639 american 201 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:22,000 russian japanese or whoever end quote 202 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:23,360 these are just some highlights showing 203 00:07:26,950 --> 00:07:25,360 that the ufo subject has been discussed 204 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:26,960 publicly by government officials at the 205 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:28,960 highest levels in japan 206 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:31,199 it's certainly not a new thing and it's 207 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:33,520 always good to remind yourself that 208 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:35,759 contrary to the old american superiority 209 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:36,800 complex 210 00:07:41,510 --> 00:07:39,840 the us is behind many countries when it 211 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:41,520 comes to ufo policy 212 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:44,240 and organized ufo study so i'm excited 213 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:45,440 by the prospect of 214 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:48,000 increasing international collaboration 215 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:48,800 but again 216 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:50,879 something to keep in mind these things 217 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:52,319 we're seeing at the government level 218 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:52,960 right now 219 00:07:59,110 --> 00:07:56,319 are focused on military and dealing with 220 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:59,120 terrestrial adversaries so it's likely 221 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,400 that any data gathered 222 00:08:03,909 --> 00:08:02,479 will only be available to government and 223 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:03,919 military personnel 224 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:06,080 who have a need to see it and it's 225 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:07,039 focused more on 226 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:10,240 enemy military technology not on the far 227 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,720 more 228 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:12,720 strange things that you and i are 229 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:22,309 well citizens that's going to do it for 230 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:24,400 this episode you can find more episodes 231 00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:26,000 of unknown on all the major podcast 232 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:26,879 platforms 233 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:28,479 and you can always find this show and 234 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:31,120 our other shows at rogueplanet.tv 235 00:08:34,630 --> 00:08:32,640 because unknown is a rogue planet 236 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:34,640 production rogueplanet.tv 237 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,120 is your home for all the strange this 238 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:39,440 show is an unknown ufo pod on twitter 239 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:41,039 i'm at ascentric on twitter and 240 00:08:43,949 --> 00:08:43,120 instagram and you can always email me at 241 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,959 jason 242 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:46,320 rogueplanet.tv thanks again for hanging 243 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:47,200 out with me today 244 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:49,279 i'm jason mcclellan do us a favor 245 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:51,040 friends always treat the ufo subject 246 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:52,480 with the cautious and responsible 247 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:54,160 skepticism it deserves 248 00:08:58,230 --> 00:08:56,320 question everything have the courage to 249 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,240 form your own opinions 250 00:09:02,230 --> 00:09:00,640 keep truth as the focus of your quest 251 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:02,240 even if the truth conflicts with your 252 00:09:14,140 --> 00:09:03,040 opinions